Posted by: parallelsidewalk | February 10, 2008

Robinson’s ‘The Years of Rice and Salt’

A tiger saves a young Sufi’s life from Hindu rebels to repay an old debt of friendship. A war rages across the world so intense that it reaches every layer of existence, bluring the lines between life and death. The Iroquois elect a new chief–an exiled Samurai warrior. A Chinese Buddhist woman and her Muslim husband come to a lake that is the most magnificent thing in existence. India becomes the most important nexus of world events. A young African eunuch and his companion, and old warrior, court death. Eternal companions meet and part in the Bardo. And I am only scratching the surface.

I can’t tell you how amazing and multi-layered this book is, and it’s from a genre I usually despise (alternative history, though it’s much more besides). A world where the black plague, instead of 1/3-1/2 of Europe’s population, killed 99%+ and set the stage for a world whose dominant cultures become China, India, and the Islamic world. The stories are brilliant, subtle, threaded together, spanning centuries and continents and yet very personal.

The book has a tiny bit of mistrust towards Islam, which doesn’t bother me much as Muslims are not dehumanized or treated as counterpoints to a ‘pure’ enemy, and the author clearly has studied Islam in some depth. The flaws in most religions and cultures are not ignored ,except for Christianity, which doesn’t appear much, being more or less a historical footnote. The development of this world is believable and detailed, and the spiritual aspect is conducted in a way that is appropriately huge and unfathomable but ties the story together. I really can’t recommend this enough. It’s one of those “If you buy one book” things.

(Hat tip to Abdul Halim.)

Responses

Hey, I remember recommending this to you. I’m glad you liked it. I agree with most of what you said except you obviously emjoyed it ALOT more than I did.

Oh yeah, dude, sorry, I was totally gonna hat tip you at the end and forgot. And i actually read it several months ago while I was IN China. Shukran!

I like historical-ish fiction as a genre, at least it annoys me less than when sci fi writers pretend they’re inventing a new world, but just really obviously give alien races the traits of human races and/or people to teach us a lesson about society or something like that.

I’m adding this to the list(which is seriously getting out of control now.)

Although I wish I had a deeper more thorough knowledge of history…

I wonder, do you think that the Chinese or Japanese would have treated the Native Americans that much better?

Also, have you read much about Chinese Islam?

I’ve actually read quite a bit about Chinese Islam. The books I’d especially recommend are Murata’s “Chinese Gleams of Sufi Light”(which is rich in background material as well as full of Islamic writings by Wang Tai Yu and another Chinese Sheik), and her “The Tao Of Islam” which, while more about gender relationships in Islam, compares and contrasts it to Confucian teaching. There’s a very good resource book simply called “Islam in China” that cross references different sources, and a history called “The Tao of Muhammad”, I can’t remember the author’s of either offhand. I’m currently studying a Chinese Qu’ran I picked up in Beijing and trying to find an English translation of the novel “The Funeral of the Muslims”, a very well-regarded and lengthly Chinese book about the fortunes of a Hui family in Beijing over the years. I also hung out with, talked, ate, interviewed, and prayed with Hui Muslims while I was in China, I could send you some pics of Chinese masjids, etc that I took if you want. You should also check out the Islam in China site on my blogroll.

As to whether Asians would have treated the Native populace better, that’s a tough call. China and Japan both have somewhat ruthless imperial tendencies in their histories, but until the Japanese invasion of China of the 20th century, they were not notably vicious or genocidal. China has a better history regarding it’s empire’s dispensation and fair treatment to it’s people than most western Empires did; you could become a high-ranking court member even if you were a foreigner in many dynastic periods, something pretty much unheard of elsewhere. It’s a tough question though.

What do you think?

Ah, yes, I read this book ages ago. It had gotten shoved off into a little used corner of my mind, but now I’ll have to put it back on my “to read” list.

This also reminds me of this website - http://www.tc.umn.edu/~ahma0089/scifi/?Islam_in_Alt_History - which has more books that may be worth checking out.

I have “Chinese Gleams” and “The Tao of Islam”. I’ve started both but only finished the second. I don’t know about the rest. I thought they were interesting in terms of how they managed to reconcile Islam with Eastern thought.

In terms of Asians in America, I would assume that they would have been no more compassionate and no more brutal than the Europeans. I’m not sure why Robinson chose to suggest that they might have been more considerate. In terms of the story, one thing which comes to mind is that the Americas were “discovered” later and explored from west to east then perhaps the indigenous inhabitants would have had more time to get their stuff together and prepare for the invasion?

oh.. the above is me..

also i was going to say that i’m not sure if i have a good sense of comparative history but I think of examples like Joseph in Egypt and Daniel in Babylon or even in more recent times someone like Frederick Douglass could go from being a slave to being an ambassador. I guess what I mean is that even in really oppressive situations you can find a couple of people in the downtrodden group who rise to the top.

rahma
Thanks for the list and for stopping by. I will be checking a couple of those out.

A-H
Yeah, it’s certainly not an absolute, but as a general rule it holds in my opinion. The ancient Roman senate or Japanese fuedal system, for example, wouldn’t have had anyone considered a foreigner or of foreign derivation attached. Those are good examples though.

As for Turtle Island, it’s a tough question. Who’s to say that the Aztecs and/or Mayans wouldn’t have discovered metallurgy and even gunsmithing in the near future and such technology might have gone north and south, if it wasn’t for Cortez and the rest? That’s actually my main issue with the book, a lot of historical events are treated as inevitable; Sikhism, Wahabi Islam, and the ascendancy of the Qing dynasty all might have happened very, very differently in such a world.

Really? it’s benn a while so I don’t remember the Wahabi part (was it by name?). Offhand, I’m not sure I would have a huge problem with some of those examples. Was the founding of the Sikh faith dependent on the West somehow? I thought it came out of the interactions between Hindus and Muslims and India, so why would it be different?

I will have to check it out. I am not a bif sci-fi fan myself. The only book I liked from that genre is “Solaris” and it dealt with the alien presence differently than other authors.

I’ll have to check this one out.

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